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Closing The Effort Gap: Why Lisa Nelsen Believes Effort Defines Success

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In this episode of The Mindful Agent, I sit down with Lisa Nelsen, communication strategist, nonprofit leader, and founder of The Effort Gap for a conversation about what really bridges the space between knowing and doing.

 

Lisa’s journey through corporate marketing, entrepreneurship, and nonprofit leadership led her to create The Effort Gap, a framework that helps people close the distance between awareness and action through clarity of mind, self-leadership, and human connection.

 

We explore:

  • Why perfect clarity isn’t the goal—and how to move forward without it

  • The Effort Gap: the space between knowing better and doing better

  • How to reframe self-doubt so it pushes you instead of paralyzing you

  • Why loneliness is rising (and what to do about it)

  • How self-leadership helps agents, entrepreneurs, and anyone lead themselves through uncertainty

    • This conversation reminded me that real growth whether in real estate, business, or life doesn’t come from more information. It comes from learning to lead ourselves, connect deeply, and take mindful action in the moment.

     

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    Timestamps:

    00:00 - Intro

    02:30 - The Effort Gap

    05:32 - Defining Morality

    08:30 - Steps to closing the gap

    12:41 - Self-leadership

    21:12 - Overwhelm & Bridging the gap

    30:15 -  Real estate is an emotional process

    34:07 - Scripts vs Using your heart

    37:52 - The golden mean

    41:50 - You require connection

    44:20 - Quick fire wisdom

    46:33 - Outro




    Links mentioned:

    Nicomachean Ethics by Aristotle

    • Lisa referred to it as her “Bible” for personal growth.
    • Amazon link

    Meditations by Marcus Aurelius

    • Noted as a tough read, but she had gone through it.
    • Amazon link

    Stillness Is the Key by Ryan Holiday

    • Explicitly recommended, along with his other works.
    • Amazon link

     

    The Gap and the Gain by Dan Sullivan & Benjamin Hardy

    • Discussed as a guest recommendation, with Lisa actively reading it.
    • Amazon link

     

    Google Calendar

    • Lisa described it as her go-to productivity tool, simple but reliable.
    • Google Calendar

     

    The Effort Gap (Concept)

    • Defined as the space between insight and action—choosing intention over autopilot and depth over quick performance.
    • effortgap.com/about/

      • Aristotle on Morality

      • https://www.britannica.com/topic/moral-virtue

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        Lise Nelsen’s Socials:

         

        Instagram

        https://www.instagram.com/lisacoruzzi/?hl=en 

         

        LinkedIn

        https://www.linkedin.com/in/lisacoruzzi/

         

        The Effort Gap

        https://effortgap.com/about/





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