Pantrium, Human Side of FinTech

Closing the Empathy Gap with Leander Wandsøe-Isaksen from GetWhy


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Empathy is becoming one of the most underrated competitive advantages in business and AI is changing how we access it.

In this episode of the Pantrium Podcast, I sit down with Leander Wandsøe-Isaksen, Lead Strategist at GetWhy, to unpack why so many products fail, how businesses misunderstand their customers, and how AI-powered qualitative research can help close the empathy gap - fast.

We explore why data alone isn’t enough, how companies fool themselves into thinking they “already know the customer,” and why the future of AI isn’t about better chatbots - but deeper human understanding.

In this episode, we cover:

- Why 95% of products fail and what empathy has to do with it

- Qualitative vs quantitative data: when numbers aren’t enough

- How AI can unlock real customer insight in 24 hours

- The myths companies tell themselves about customer research

- Why emotional drivers matter more than technical features

- How to balance AI automation with human connection

- What true customer obsession actually looks like in practice


If you care about customer experience, AI in business, product-market fit, leadership, fintech, or building brands people trust, this episode is for you.


00:00 Introduction 

02:20 Understanding Empathy in Business

04:33 The Role of AI in Customer Research

06:09 Challenges in Customer Research

17:07 Empathy in the Financial Sector

23:27 Implementing Customer Insights Strategically

34:13 Final Thoughts and Future Predictions


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Pantrium, Human Side of FinTechBy Christie H.Kristensen