Kasten recently emerged from stealth and has released kanister, an extensible open-source framework for application-level data management on Kubernetes--as well as a commercial offering that builds on it. In this podcast, CEO Niraj Tolia discusses the increased need to manage storage used with Kubernetes at scale, the challenges of complex distributed apps, and the need for app-centric approaches that make infrastructure "boring" (to use my colleague Clayton Coleman's term).