This week, on The New Stack Context podcast, we talking about how cloud providers are affecting open source companies with Karthik Ramasamy, co-founder and CEO of Streamlio. Streamlio offers cloud native messaging, processing and event storage as a service, powered by Apache Pulsar.

This week, everyone was buzzing about Amazon’s new distribution of Elasticsearch. AWS was careful to say it wasn’t a fork of the project on which the company Elasticsearch runs a lucrative business. But instead justified the move by saying it was too difficult for users of the project to distinguish between the open source code and the proprietary code which the company charges for.

Karthik will talk in the first half of the show with us about this battle between the cloud providers and commercial open source companies and how business models are evolving. He wrote about this very topic a few weeks ago on The New Stack in a post called “2019: The Cloud’s Impact on Open Source.”

Then later in the show, we catch up on all the news from the Linux Foundation’s Open Source Leadership Summit, in Half Moon Bay, California.