In this BetterTech podcast of "Cloud Security Economy: Trust, Doubts, and the Zero Trust Paradigm," Colin McCarthy talks with John Kindervag, chief Evangelist at Illumio and the person who came up with the Zero Trust idea. They talk about how Zero Trust went from a new idea in 2010 to a very important way to keep computer systems safe today. John explains why Zero Trust is so important for stopping hackers and fixes some wrong ideas people have about keeping things safe in the cloud. He also says it's very important to learn by doing things yourself in cybersecurity and to start with basic jobs to get this experience. This episode gives a clear look at how to keep things safe in the cloud and why doing things yourself is so important, all through the story of Zero Trust.