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On the Gregory and Paul Show, we break down the latest in startups, SaaS, AI, memes, and whatever the internet is debating this week.

This episode covers the finalized TikTok divestiture to a U.S. consortium, OpenAI quietly building adtech infrastructure, Cloudflare’s birthday product blitz, Figma’s leap into vibe-coded design, Facebook’s awkward AI image generator, Amigo’s uncanny AI avatars, and the MIT/HBR report on “work slop.”

️ Episode 016 – Highlights

Fall Vibes & Tech Bro Podcasts (0:08)
Gregory and Paul catch up on weather in Toronto and Seattle, joke about turning the stream into a real podcast, and why Sunday gym pods just hit different.

TikTok Divested: MAGA Bros Buyout (2:05)
The U.S. consortium deal closes—Oracle, A16Z, and Silver Lake take control. Data moves to Oracle servers, and the U.S. gains leverage over the algorithm. Debate: at $14B, is TikTok massively undervalued compared to Reddit, X, and Snap?

OpenAI Builds Ad Infrastructure (9:00)
A job posting sparks rumors of an OpenAI ad network, but the hosts unpack what’s really happening: building in-house systems to buy ads and scale user acquisition. Gregory sees platform risk, Paul wonders if this means GPT adoption has plateaued.

Cloudflare’s Birthday Product Drop (16:00)
Cloudflare launches DIY vibe coding infrastructure—essentially “make your own Lovable.” Gregory compares it to Ning (build-your-own social networks circa 2008). The duo asks: are we in the “third wave” of the hype cycle?

Figma’s Vibe Design Tool (32:00)
Figma unveils AI-generated signup flows. Clean code, better than Lovable, but templatized. The hosts discuss the rebundling of product/design/dev roles and why generalists are winning—until specialization inevitably returns.

️ Facebook’s Awkward AI Slop (38:00)
Meta drops a cartoony AI image generator. Paul thinks it’s useless, Gregory argues Gen Z doesn’t care about polish—they just want to make stuff. Cue a nostalgia rabbit hole: what will people be nostalgic for in 20 years?

‍ Amigo AI: Real-Time Avatars (48:21)
An app that replaces your face and voice in live calls, indistinguishable from reality. The crew warns: deepfake-era misinformation is here. Blockchain or account provenance may be the only way to authenticate reality.

Work Slop & Enterprise AI Failures (55:00)
MIT + HBR report: 95% of enterprise AI pilots show no ROI. Gregory and Paul argue it’s not AI’s fault—it’s bureaucracy. Startups thrive because big orgs can’t escape compliance, approvals, and incentives that reward “garbage first drafts.”

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