On this episode, Katy sits down with Bonnie He (@BonnieHe on Twitter). She’s a comedian, writer, clown, and has a very fun web series, Darla Wang the Dick Whisperer. They chat about how clowning helped Bonnie embrace failure, the power of journaling, and her experience performing for the Andrew Yang presidential campaign.

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