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Codeless Test Automation with testRigor — feat. Paul Grossman & Artem Golubev (Independent)
How plain-English, codeless automation slashes the test-maintenance burden that plagues Selenium teams.
Jonathan Wright talks with automation veteran Paul Grossman and testRigor founder Artem Golubev about writing tests in plain English from an end user's perspective instead of relying on XPaths, CSS selectors, or IDs. They argue that test maintenance, not test creation, is the number-one plague in automation, and that natural-language executable specifications with per-step screenshots dramatically reduce that burden. The discussion covers stability, self-diagnosis via screenshot diffs, three-minute proofs of concept, and bridging test management tools with executable automation. They stress that domain knowledge and the human tester remain essential, and float future directions like RPA, localization testing, and collaboration on visual testing.
**In this episode:**
- Test Automation
- Codeless Automation
- Low-Code / No-Code Testing
- Test Management & Tooling
- AI in Testing
- Regression Testing
- BDD & TDD
- Continuous Testing
**Guest:** Paul Grossman — Test Automation Engineer & creator of the Magic Object Model / CandyMapper, Independent
**Guest:** Artem Golubev — CEO & Founder, testRigor
**Host:** Jonathon Wright — *The Automation Cyborg*
> “I'm starting to think that tattoo wasn't really the greatest idea, because in this case I don't have to deal with the XPaths, I don't even need to deal with iframes in order to identify these elements.”
🎧 *Subscribe to The QA Lead on Apple Podcasts, Spotify and Google Podcasts for conversations on software testing, QA, test automation and the future of quality engineering.*
## Hashtags
#SoftwareTesting #QA #QualityEngineering #TheQALead #TestingPodcast #TestAutomation #CodelessAutomation #LowCode #TestManagement #AITesting #RegressionTesting #BDD #ContinuousTesting
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By Automation CyborgHow plain-English, codeless automation slashes the test-maintenance burden that plagues Selenium teams.
Jonathan Wright talks with automation veteran Paul Grossman and testRigor founder Artem Golubev about writing tests in plain English from an end user's perspective instead of relying on XPaths, CSS selectors, or IDs. They argue that test maintenance, not test creation, is the number-one plague in automation, and that natural-language executable specifications with per-step screenshots dramatically reduce that burden. The discussion covers stability, self-diagnosis via screenshot diffs, three-minute proofs of concept, and bridging test management tools with executable automation. They stress that domain knowledge and the human tester remain essential, and float future directions like RPA, localization testing, and collaboration on visual testing.
**In this episode:**
- Test Automation
- Codeless Automation
- Low-Code / No-Code Testing
- Test Management & Tooling
- AI in Testing
- Regression Testing
- BDD & TDD
- Continuous Testing
**Guest:** Paul Grossman — Test Automation Engineer & creator of the Magic Object Model / CandyMapper, Independent
**Guest:** Artem Golubev — CEO & Founder, testRigor
**Host:** Jonathon Wright — *The Automation Cyborg*
> “I'm starting to think that tattoo wasn't really the greatest idea, because in this case I don't have to deal with the XPaths, I don't even need to deal with iframes in order to identify these elements.”
🎧 *Subscribe to The QA Lead on Apple Podcasts, Spotify and Google Podcasts for conversations on software testing, QA, test automation and the future of quality engineering.*
## Hashtags
#SoftwareTesting #QA #QualityEngineering #TheQALead #TestingPodcast #TestAutomation #CodelessAutomation #LowCode #TestManagement #AITesting #RegressionTesting #BDD #ContinuousTesting