Computer scientist Edward A. Lee shares his thoughts on the symbiotic coevolution of humans and machines, why the 'dataist' belief in human cognition resembling computation is likely wrong, and how recent technological developments resemble the emergence of a new form of life.

Edward Ashford Lee is Distinguished Professor (Emeritus) in Electrical Engineering and Computer Sciences at the University of California, Berkeley, where he runs iCyPhy, a research center focused on industrial cyber-physical systems. He is the author of Plato and the Nerd (MIT Press) and other books.

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