Coffee is now in fourth wave. One of creation, innovation and creativity from the barista on a level unseen in its history.  Ryan Castelaz of Discourse Coffee is one of seminal forces in the movement.  

Classic Eats with Kyle Johnson Cherek is created and hosted by Kyle Johnson Cherek, and co-produced by a'point productions and WUWM. Executive producers are Kyle Johnson Cherek and Rob Schoonover. Audio editing and engineering by Brian Arkta and John Rymaszewski. Additional production by Valeria Navarro Villegas, Michelle Maternowski and Rob Larry, Special thanks to our guest Ryan Castelaz.