In episode 3 of Coffee with the Pastors, Jordan and Jason confess their less than optimal sleep scores and the difficulties in observing the Sabbath well. How do we prioritize rest? How do we even define it? Jordan and Jason tackle these questions along with the lure of distractions and the desire to achieve. Hear their examples of rest – mowing, dishes, running, and driving – and consider where you can find your rest.

In this Coffee with the Pastors conversation, Jordan and Jason explore John Mark Comer’s idea of being an apprentice of Jesus vs. a follower. In a world with competing priorities, how can we be with Jesus? How can we discard our badges of busyness and don a badge of apprenticeship with Jesus? As we sip our coffee and lean into the discussion, we encounter nuance, obstacles, and the delay of Jason putting his shoes on before a run. In the end, we return to Jesus’ invitation: Come follow Me. Learn from Me. Walk with Me.

On this first episode of our revamped Coffee with the Pastors, get to know the fearless leaders of North Heights: Jordan Gehlhar and Jason DeShaw. Hear about their upbringings, their journeys of faith, and how Jordan used to read his Bible in Basic Training so that he wouldn’t be given extra chores! As we engage with their journeys into ministry, set aside space to reflect on your own. As humans with different histories, flaws, fears, and callings, we can live with an expectancy that God will move powerfully through our stories.