Nate & Ben are joined by Daniel Shoptaw (@C70) to discuss Christmas decorations, Mo's confidence, Yadi's return, the new rotation, Tyler O'Neill's trade value and potential, Ryan Fernandez and his slider, Phil Maton and the rumor mill, the draft lottery :(, the very cold stove, and much more! 

COLD STOVE (w/ Daniel Shoptaw)

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Nate & Ben are joined by Dan Szymborski (Fangraphs, ZIPs) to discuss cats, Arby's, video games, the creation of ZIPs, adjusting projections as the game evolves, how teams utilize internal metrics vs what the rest of the world uses, the long term problems with the Cardinals and the overall issue with how baseball is set up, more video games, and much more!  Talking About Birds is listener supported on Patreon. Support the show and join our private discord server at: www.patreon.com/talkingaboutbirds.

Cooked Cardinals? (w/ Dan Szymborski)

Nate is abroad for this weeks show and friend of the show Kyle Reis joins Ben!  They discuss the rough start to the season, Sonny Gray and the death of the machismo baseball player, what the Cardinals are doing well and not so well when it comes to developing pitchers.  They also chat about rising and falling prospects in the system, why the future may be brighter than we thought and if cereal is a soup?  #breakfestsoup Talking About Birds is listener support on Patreon, support the show and join our private discord server at: https://www.patreon.com/talkingaboutbirds

Bad Fastballs w/ Kyle Reis

Nate & Ben discuss starting a feud like Drake and Kendrick, going to a White Sox game, Star Wars & Star Trek, the confusing situation the Cardinals find themselves in, the potential resurgence of the offense, remembering its against the the Angels, how bad the Angels are, bring back Jordan Walker, Dylan Carlson vs Siani, Matt Carpenter the Professional Hitter, how quickly the rotation became bad again, the Cardinals dwindling playoff odds, considering the future, the trade deadline, and much more!  Talking About Birds is listener supported on Patreon. Support the show and join our private discord server at: www.patreon.com/talkingaboutbirds.

BBL Baseball

Nate & Ben discuss Cinco de Mayo, the millennial event of the year, the injury to Willson Contreras, Herrera and Pages as backups, Gallegos (dudewaffles) a d the mysterious case of should impingements, Roycroft, Mycroft Holmes, Dylan Carlson's return, the terrible series against the White Sox, the return of mCarp, Matz and his replacement, fixing the home run problem on both sides, why we can still have hope, the series against the Brewers and the series against the Angels, and much more!  Talking About Birds is listener supported on Patreon. Support the show and join our private discord server at: www.patreon.com/talkingaboutbirds.

We Got No Food, We Got No Jobs, Our Catcher's Arms are Falling Off!

Nate & Ben discuss the fishing trip, falling out of boats, BEES, SO MANY BEES, the Cardinals mediocre April, the rise of Alec Burleson (CHIEF BEEF), Goldy and his always bad April, the Cardinals overall lack of power and how to fix it, the killer trio at the end of the bullpen, Dylan Carlson's imminent return, the starting pitching and possible upcoming collapse, regressing to the mean, the upcoming series against the White Sox, the upcoming series against the Mets, and much more!  Talking About Birds is listener supported on Patreon. Support the show and join our private discord server at: www.patreon.com/talkingaboutbirds.

COLD STOVE (w/ Daniel Shoptaw)

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