Join us as we speak with Modal AI's director of hardware, Vinny Kemler. This one gets pretty raw as we discuss security, motivations of getting into engineering, music, cooking, and what it takes to send flight hardware to the planet Mars. Vinny is an all around great guy. 

Modal is one of the few companies still making things in America and you can learn more about their work at https://www.modalai.com/  

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