In this episode of She the People, Mindy is joined by her cousin-in-law Andy for a wide-ranging, no-BS conversation about apathy—why it spreads, why it’s dangerous, and why “it won’t happen to me” is one of the most costly lies we tell ourselves. Using Jane Goodall’s warning that apathy is the greatest danger to our future, they unpack how comfort, individualism, and political fatigue keep people frozen even as rights erode and propaganda intensifies. From history’s warning signs to the everyday excuses we hide behind (“I’m too busy,” “I don’t like the wording”), Mindy and Andy push one core message: neutrality helps the loudest and worst voices win. They close with an actionable call to get out of your comfort zone—start small, stay consistent, and choose collective action over doomscrolling.