Check out this Black History Month conversation on colorism with a bonus interview with Black-ish showrunner Kenya Barris on storytelling, representation, and healing.

You’ll hear a brief clip from Black-ish in this episode. The clip is from the ‘Diane Confronts Her Family’ segment available on ⁠YouTube⁠, and we encourage you to check out the full series streaming on Hulu.

Episode music provided by ⁠Miri!⁠ and Stephen Muldrow