What does it really mean to obey when life feels uncertain?
In this episode, Zach and Sawyer open with their usual banter, but quickly dive into a deeper question: how do we follow God when His instructions call us to wait, trust, and surrender? Starting with Acts 1:1–5, they reflect on the disciples waiting in Jerusalem, a small act of obedience that unlocked the power of the Spirit and changed the world.
From there, the conversation gets personal. They talk about the nudges we often ignore, the risks of partial obedience, and the very real struggle of trusting God in the hard places. Zach shares his story of wrestling with despair, even questioning his own life, and how surrendering to God in that moment changed everything. He leans into the weight of responsibility, as men, as fathers, as leaders, and what obedience looks like when the stakes are high.
But the message doesn’t stop at struggle. Through Scripture, raw honesty, and a few hard-won lessons, they remind us that God provides for every step, that suffering produces endurance, and that even when we stumble, obedience today is the seed of tomorrow’s blessing.
If you’ve ever felt stuck, compared yourself to others, or wondered whether obedience is really worth it, this episode will encourage you to keep going, trust God’s strength over your own, and step forward in faith.
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