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COMIC CONNECTIONS: Captain Marvel - Death and Indignity be Damned

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Episode 66 - Captain Marvel - Death and Indignity be Damned

This week’s topic is the early years of Carol Danvers in the comics as we prepare for a re-watch of 2018’s Captain Marvel, starring Brie Larson and Samuel L Jackson. 

This Week In Comics

Marvel Reveals the New Ultimate Avengers Team

  • https://comicbook.com/comics/news/marvel-reveals-the-new-ultimate-avengers-team/

New on Marvel Unlimited this Week

  • https://www.marvel.com/comics/calendar/week/2023-10-08

Recommendation: Superhero Culture Wars: Politics, Marketing and Social Justice in Marvel Comics by Monica Flegel & Judith Leggatt

  • https://www.comicbookyeti.com/post/superhero-culture-wars

This Week's Stack

  • Marvel Super-Heroes #13  
  • Ms. Marvel #1  
  • Avengers #200  
  • Uncanny X-Men #164  
  • Captain Marvel (2012) #1-6  

    • 2 Minute Recap and Discussion Topics

    Marvel Super-Heroes #13

    • Carol starts as a woman in a position of power.  Unusual for the time.
  • Ends up as a potential love interest of Mar-Vell, much like Lois Lane was to Superman at the time.

    • Ms. Marvel #1

    • Carol’s new look and attitude very much based on Gloria Steinem, who also co-founded Ms. Magazine (featuring Wonder Woman on the first issue). 
  • The callback to 1940s Captain Marvel was a nice touch 
  • Quickly got her memory issues sorted out.  Changed costume in #19.  Series ended with #23. 
  • Spider-Man and Mary Jane cameos 
  • Duane is not a fan of the black-outs and how this story hints at what is obviously going on. 

    • Avengers #200  

    • Lots of writers and yet...
  • Super messed up. Very weird and sexist. No idea what the writers were trying to accomplish, but nothing about this story sat right.
  • Almost immediately this story was recognized to be super messed up.
  • Chris Claremont tried to fix things a bit in Avengers Annual #10 by giving Carol a chance to lay into the team

    • Uncanny X-Men #164 

    • The Brood are the worst.  Look very much like the alien from Alien or the Gorn on Star Trek: Strange New Worlds
  • New powers are radiation based, and are top-notch.  Makes her one of the most powerful people in the Marvel Universe. 
  • Had been with the X-Men since Prof X helped her get her memories back

    • Captain Marvel (2012) #1-6 

    • Saved the best for last
  • Standing on the shoulders of two giants - the previous Captain Marvels and earlier female pilots 
  • Ultimately Danvers herself gets to decide if she wants to keep the life she has (with powers) or change her fate and go without. Very Empowering
  • The new costume: https://comicbook.com/marvel/news/captain-marvel-got-new-costume-bet/

    • Final Thoughts

    Correspondence

    • We're going to be migrating Phases of the Moon Knight over to Comics Over Time as Season 1. Just in case you get some of those episodes in your feed.

    What's Next 

    • Captain Marvel from 2019.

    Signoff 

    Questions or comments

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