This is a tale of two cities, or at least that's where the two parts were recorded. Both are united by a common theme, sanctioned physical violence/entertainment. The first half features Jay Washington (@MrJayWashington) from Chicago, IL. The second half Ted Pettingell (@TedPettingell) cohosts with me for an outdoor interview with Rob Sullivan (@SullivanHates) about his time singing for the band Ruiner, taking up mixed martial arts and his recent foray into storytelling.