In this episode, I have a powerful conversation with Sue Tell, veteran leader with the Navigators, as we dive into the internal struggles we face within churches and Christian organizations. In this episode, Sue opens up about her battle with shame and comparison, and how these feelings impacted her ministry.

Alongside her husband, Bill, Sue reached a breaking point where performance couldn't sustain them. It was then that they encountered God's transformative love and grace. Tune in to hear Sue's inspiring journey and how embracing God's acceptance changed everything.

In this episode, you'll learn:

• Why religious upbringing doesn't guarantee knowing God
• How Sue learned to trade performance and checklists for friendship with Jesus
• How unaddressed shame and people-pleasing lead to burnout in ministry
• How performance affected Sue's ability to be present as a spouse and parent
• The breakthroughs Sue and Bill made through counseling

Links Mentioned: To receive Sue's blog, "Echoes of Grace," use this link, then click on "Follow Echoes of Grace."

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• "Lay it Down" by Bill Tell
• TrueFace Ministry

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