Award-winning journalist, author, & TV presenter Gavin Esler joins us to discuss his new book: How Britain Ends - and whether or not far-right nationalism could lead to the break-up of the UK. We also talk about how we can change the divisive culture of politics (and the media) & the prospects for the Biden presidency. Produced by Compassion in Politics, which works to bring more compassion into public life, distributed by The Real Agenda Network www.compassioninpolitics.com www.realagenda.org