This time on the OIST podcast: Prof. Ulf Dieckmann, head of OIST’s Complexity Science and Evolution Unit, gives a glimpse into his work at the interface of math, biology, and physics. This episode is part of our series on OIST’s Global Bioconvergence Center of Innovation, which is dedicated to the “One World, One Health” approach, and was hosted by our podcaster in residence DJ Nick Luscombe. Together they spoke about complexity science’s contribution to improving environmental and mental health.