This week, Olly and Lisa sit down with Be Kaler Pilgrim, a design and tech recruitment leader who has spent more than two decades helping creatives find their place in changing organisations. 

We get honest about where the jobs have gone, how to get seen when robots are the first reader of your CV, and what soft skills genuinely look like in an AI workplace. As always, it's personal, practical and grounded in what is actually happening right now.

Why listen?

1. Understand the real story behind the vanishing creative roles. 
2. Learn how to get past automated gatekeepers.
3. Make peace with soft skills being hard to show, and find your way.

Some things we took from our conversation with Be Kaler Pilgrim

• Most companies don't actually know what “AI skills” are yet. Curiosity and fluency can help us stand out. Ditch the empty claims.

• Hiring is slower, more stubborn and more competitive. We have to be resilient and ready to compete.

• Communities matter more than ever. Let's not struggle alone.

• Robots can filter keywords, but they cannot judge fit or values. Humans still hire humans, which is a relief to us.

Tune in

Whether you are hiring or you are trying to build a creative career in the UK, and want help to make sense of the changing rules.

Find us

Be Kaler Pilgrim: https://www.smithfieldsearch.com/#who

Olly Veysey: https://www.linkedin.com/in/oliverveysey/

Lisa Talia Moretti: https://www.linkedin.com/in/lisataliamoretti/