Clyde and Gracie Lawrence (the brother-sister duo of the Lawrence the Band) talk with James and Bree about their family and how making music is therapeutic. Click here for this episode's transcript.

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This episode was produced by Lead Podcast Producer Briget Ganske and Associate Producer Jaylah Moore-Ross. Alayna Ly from KUOW's RadioActive edited and mixed this episode. This episode was made in collaboration with the podcast This Teenage Life.