In this conversation, Michael Gay shares his profound journey into men's work, exploring themes of spirituality, psychology, and the importance of human connection. He reflects on the impact of influential figures like Robert Bly and his experiences in wilderness therapy, emphasizing the need for men to reclaim their fierceness and vulnerability. The discussion highlights the challenges of modern isolation and the necessity of building meaningful relationships for personal growth and healing.

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