What if everything you thought about spiritual growth was backwards? Can transformation happen through relationship rather than regulation? This episode challenges the assumption that cleaning up your life comes before connecting with God, exploring why authentic discipleship starts with connection and not correction. Through the story of a despised tax collector and two fishermen who abandoned everything, discover what makes someone willing to follow—and why religious rules alone never produce true disciples. What does it actually take to move from inherited faith to personal encounter?

Recorded Live Sunday, Jauary 11th, 2026