Host Rob Carmichael sits down with Dr. Nevin Harper—outdoor educator, therapist, and co-author of Kids These Days—to explore how real growth happens through connection, challenge, and time outside. Neven traces his path from a northern Canadian childhood to wilderness guiding and clinical counseling, and unpacks big ideas from the new book: why risk ≠ hazard, how our modern “safety trap” and over-diagnosis can backfire, and why belonging, mastery, independence, and generosity (the Circle of Courage) are essential for youth development.

They also tackle hot topics like cell-phone bans, pandemic aftershocks, and the role of discomfort, play, and nature in building resilient young people. Practical takeaways for teachers, counselors, and parents included—plus simple ways to bring therapeutic, nature-based practices into everyday life.

Learn more about Nevin Harper: https://www.nevinharper.com/ and discover his new book https://www.kidsthesedaysbook.com/.