In this episode, I have a hopeful conversation with Kirli Saunders, a proud Gunai Woman and award-winning international writer of poetry, plays and picture books. She is a teacher, cultural consultant and artist. In 2020, Kirli was named the NSW Aboriginal Woman of the Year. Kirli's latest book 'Bindi' is the winner of the Daisy Utemorrah award. It explores connection to Country, bushfires and the power of community in overcoming hardship.

We explore a wide range of topics from yoga, First Nations knowledge and the relationship between time and space. We deep dive into the ideas of place and how connected we are as a person to the Earth and how that governs the way moving around the world. Kirli provides incredible insight into the relationship with ancient text from both First Nations and yogic practices and how the lessons are similar in understanding that the Earth is us, and we are it and we have a responsibility to care for it.

Kirli talks about her experiences with First Nations languages and how when embraced, it can foster a deeper connection to the land as you begin to notice the natural rhythms and appreciate the vibrational properties of the plants, trees and everything around you. Kirli exemplifies the deep need for change as it is becoming more evident that the natural rhythms of the earth are being interrupted with climate change.

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Produced by Samuel Findlay.