Laurie Fitz and Rick Bernardo visit with the Rev. Don Dewey, longtime minister, former Regional Minister of the Pacific Southwest Region of the Christian Church (Disciples of Christ), and Rick’s long ago former Pacific School of Religion classmate in Berkeley. We discuss many changes over the decades in churches’ nature and membership—and re-emerging evils of systemic racism, poverty, war economy, and the distorted moral narrative of religious nationalism. – www.FCCtorrance.org / www.Disciples.org / www.PoorPeoplesCampaign.org