In this continuation from last week’s conversation, Tristan and guest host Phil sit down with Rachel to dive deeper into the world of conservation, reptiles, and community. They swap stories from conventions, reflect on the destruction of rattlesnake den sites, and explore the beginnings of Phil's podcasting career. Along the way, Phil and Rachel share a wild (and slightly nerve-wracking) tale about a mishap while cleaning the enclosure of a black and white spitting cobra. Through it all, the episode highlights the power of community in protecting wildlife and supporting one another.

For Rachel:

⚫piksteinlab.org

🔵Rachel Pikstein on Facebook

🟠Pikstein Laboratory on Patreon

For Phil:

🎙️Venom Exchange Radio

📸@knobtails.ig

📸@venomexchangeradio

📸@Herpetoculture Network

For Tristan

📸@thehobbyhangarpodcast

📸@sweet_tea480

Don't forget to check out the 50th anniversary of the National Herpetological Symposium at the Chiricahua Desert Museum in Rodeo, New Mexico taking place Early August of 2026!