In this interview with Roger Mantie, we discuss the importance of leisure for self preservation, problematize the single focus of education for workforce readiness, discuss the importance of focusing on happiness and wellbeing, explore discourse in education and around leisure, and much more.

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How to Get Started with Computer Science Education

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00:00 Intro

01:06 An introduction by Roger

01:58 Something that continues to impact Roger's understanding of education

05:20 How Roger became interested in researching leisure

09:52 The difference between pursuing something for leisure or for a career

12:59 Should we focus on leisure in school?

18:30 How much should we focus on leisure?

23:33 What might the arts and CS learn from each other?

33:32 How does Roger focus on his own leisure

34:32 How to connect with Roger

35:15 Outro