In this episode, Joanne welcomes back Pamela Dussault-Runtagh to discuss some hot topics including Pamela’s work with estranged parents and burned out caregivers. The conversation deliberately veers into the topic of the Stockholm Syndrome, particularly focusing on the documentary 'Bad Hostage' which parallels the Patty Hearst case with an incident in Sebastopol, California. They discuss survival instincts, misunderstood terms, and cultural nuances of perceived captor-captive relationships. Listen in for an enlightening discussion that’s as heavy as it is eye-opening.