In this episode, Madeline chats with her friend Ben Fetterman, a chemical laboratory technician. During their conversation, they discuss his conversion from evangelical Mennonite to Byzantine Catholic, a brief history of Mennonites and the Amish, his college journey at Penn State, why he joined an Eastern Sui iris church, praying the liturgy, priesthood in the Eastern Catholic churches, and so much more.

During the course of their conversation, they make many references which you can explore. Some of these references include Project Hail Mary by Andy Weir, the Inkwells and Anvils writing community, and Fide et Ratio.

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