What is it about church that keeps it from producing the kinds of people that the Old and New Testaments talk about?⁠ Dallas Willard grabs a saying from management experts, "Your system is perfectly designed to yield the result you are getting" and applies it to church. In this episode, Michael Stewart Robb shares Willard's diagnosis and he explains why Willard thinks that the solution must be natural. BE INFORMED and PRAY for us better by signing up for the Sanctus newsletter: https://sanctus.institute