In this episode we speak to the Minnesota Pollution Control Agency's (MPCA) Assistant Commissioner Katrina Kessler and Director of Public Engagement and Tribal Liaison Helen Waquiu. Assistant Commissioner Kessler reflects contextualizes MPCA regulatory work and shines light on the organizations future work with Line 3. Director of Public Engagement and Tribal Liaison Waquiu explains the consultation process during permitting and reflects on her experience at the intersection of idigenous sovereignty and US regulatory laws.