It's been nine months since the death of George Floyd in Minneapolis, so Todd Seifert, host of the "In Layman's Terms" podcast, decided to tell some follow-up stories featuring guests who helped explain the impact of police and other kinds of violence upon people of color in earlier episodes in the spring of 2020.

Eugenio Hernandez, the conference’s multimedia production specialist, took it a step further by recording this video of the interview discussions with the Rev. Dee Williamston, superintendent of the Salina and Hutchinson districts, and the Rev. Robert Johnson, lead pastor of Saint Mark United Methodist Church in Wichita, the Great Plains Conference's largest predominantly African-American church. This podcast is the audio version of that interview.

Williamston and Johnson share how their ministry has changed over the past nine months, signs of hope they have seen since George Floyd’s death, and what they think needs to happen so the next generation lives in a more equitable world.