Author Michelle Lazurek joins Cathy to talk about how overwhelming and scary some of our adventures can be! As women we get a lot thrown at us. Strong, successful women almost universally struggle with control and perfectionism. A lot of times, we’re expected to do it all perfectly. And keep it all under control,” laughs Michelle. As if. Don’t miss this fast-paced, often funny conversation as Michelle gets real about what it means (and does NOT mean) to surrender!