<p>Desiree and Tauni join us to discuss the chaos that was being the oldests. We talk early days, running away, cousin Julie, and take a moment at the end to listen to one of Travis' favorite poems -- "In Just" by e e cummings. </p>

Desiree and Tauni join us to discuss the chaos that was being the oldests. We talk early days, running away, cousin Julie, and take a moment at the end to listen to one of Travis' favorite poems -- "In Just" by e e cummings.

<p>Desiree and Tauni join us to discuss the chaos that was being the oldests. We talk early days, running away, cousin Julie, and take a moment at the end to listen to one of Travis' favorite poems -- "In Just" by e e cummings.&nbsp;</p>

Conversation 10: Firstborns and runaways

Shortly after my mother’s funeral, my father and I started having weekly calls where we’ve been discussing family folklore, life lessons, and times past. Of my father’s 8 children, I am likely the one furthest from his political, theological, and personal life views, and yet each week we talk, and occasionally we post those conversations here.

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