Thomas talks with Kiran Gaind.  Kiran talks about her bliss of connection and conversation, being a twin and how that has influenced how she sees relationships, a discussion about how to shape independence in twins, how the pandemic affected her family, work, and shaped how she interacts in the world, helping parents who were worried about their kids falling behind in school, reemergence and reconnection, equity and access in education, finding the balance of knowledge and social-emotional learning, playtime/downtime/family time split, learning to value the play over the work, connection of all people through conversation, and how others can find bliss through conversation and connection.