This podcast is Part 2 of the chat we had with Victor Teboho Mongoato, a black commercial farmer in Matatiele, Eastern Cape, at the foot of Maluti mountain range. I visited Mongoato's farm after this recording. The farm is situated at the base of a military camp, where he is conducting wheat trials, and farming soybeans, maize, and livestock. In this podcast we discuss challenges facing black commercial farmers in South Africa. [email protected]