A conversation with Croatian performance artist Josipa Bubaš and poet/fiction writer Neva Lukić, recorded via Skype in April 2020, at the very start of the Covid19 lockdowns.

The interview took place while I was taking part in Neva and Josipa’s workshop ‘Goosbumps’ which was originally meant to happen offline in Croatia but due to Covid restrictions had to find an alternative way of operating and that alternative was, of course, the zoom.

As we speak of this workshop, we reflect on the transition from the real to the digital and wonder if we are witnessing the birth of a new era. What would be gained and what lost if art and our lives would indeed transition to the digital space, and is there even a way to stop this from happening?

We entertain the idea of lockdowns without Facebook, Instagram, zoom, etc. and question what would Corona look like without technology?

Recorded 19 April 2020 via Skype, hence the slight technical glitches.

For the full transcript of this conversation see: https://www.artemisprojects.com.au/conversations/podcast-josipa-bubas-neva-lukic

Music by @trevorbrownmusic created in a Zagreb apartment during the Artemis Projects residency. More details: https://www.artemisprojects.com.au/trevor-brown-resident-2019