In this episode Brooklyn based performance artists Esther Neff and IV Castellanos share insight on collective organizing and their involvement in various performance hives including Panoply Performance Laboratory (PPL) which was founded and is co-directed by Esther Neff. We also hear about how location, collaboration, process and materials influence various actions and shape their practices. They break down ideas surrounding terms such as 'NO-WAVE' and ‘Feminist' as related to their work, and we learn a bit more about their relationship to Maria Hupfield, whom they are respondent artists to in the #callresponse project.