Today's podcast episode was taken from a zoom call I had with a colleague of mine, benjamin Hester, graduate from UMichagan. We always have high powered debates on twitter so we decided to take it to the screen via a zoom call for you guys to enjoy. Don't forget to visit us at Svaofamerica.com/theramblings to sign up and subscribe to all the latest content and exclusive interviews & follow us across all social media @AssistanceHQ