The Gundy brothers blazed their unique football-playing and coaching paths from their home in Midwest City — Cale at OU and Mike at Oklahoma State.

In this episode of Conversations with Coach, Bob Stoops is joined by Cale Gundy to discuss how the brothers found success.

Among the topics covered:
*Who Cale was named after. (0:20)
*What it was like growing up in Midwest City. (1:11)
*OU’s transition from the wishbone to a passing offense. (8:52) 
*Gundy’s suggestions for changes to name, image and likeness rules and other potential moves for college sports. (17:53)

Producer: Jacquelyn Musgrove
Creative Director: Michael Lane

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