In this episode, we sit down with Michael Flournoy, author of Tearing the Veil: A Guide for Sharing Grace with Mormons. Once a zealous Mormon missionary and amateur LDS apologist, Michael shares the incredible story of how a three-hour debate on grace, authority, and the nature of God began his journey out of Mormonism—and into the arms of Jesus.

Joined by our interns, Grace and Charlie, we explore Michael’s unique witnessing approach called the IRIS method, which breaks down the gospel into four key concepts: Impossible Standard, Reckoned Righteousness, Indomitable Gift, and Settled in Faith. Michael offers practical advice on utilizing Mormon vocabulary to convey biblical truths, explains why Christians should read the Book of Mormon when witnessing, and discusses the importance of playing the long game in gospel conversations.

This episode is packed with practical insights for anyone passionate about sharing the truth of God’s grace with Latter-day Saints. Whether you’re preparing for door-to-door outreach, engaging in spiritual conversations with missionaries, or just beginning to understand the Mormon mindset, Michael’s testimony and tactics will equip and encourage you.

For more from Michael, check out our review of his book "Tearing the Veil."

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