Hosted by Marius SUP

🎙 New podcast episode with Cecilio

In this episode, I sat down with Cecilio, a long-time practitioner and reference figure in organizational constellations, systemic management, and systemic thinking.

Our conversation explored how organizations function as living systems — how they carry memory, loyalty, and patterns that go far beyond individual people or roles.

We spoke about leadership, authority, and decision-making in complex systems.

But we also reflected on the future of this work.

What does systemic practice offer to the next generations?

How can this field remain alive, relevant, and accessible in a changing world?

This episode is a dialogue between experience and curiosity, tradition and evolution.

It invites listening, not quick answers.

About the host

Marius SUP is Systemic Advisor and  the author of several books exploring human systems, leadership, and inner transformation.

His work focuses on lived experience rather than methodology.

Books by Marius SUP - available on Amazon 

Disclaimer

This podcast is a space for conversation and reflection.

The content does not constitute professional, therapeutic, or medical advice.

Each listener is responsible for how they receive and integrate what is shared.