In the latest episode of the podcast series, Tiff chats to Victoria Police veteran, Deb Richardson. It is difficult to fully explain the incredible life Deb has had so far but a few points:

- Deb was in the Russell Street Police Building when on 27 March 1986 a bomb was detonated that tragically took the life of Constable Angela Taylor. Deb was incredibly lucky to not lose her life in this event as well.

- Deb played an integral role in the changing of legislation that ensured that the person responsible for that act will never be released from prison.

- Years ago, Deb fostered a young Ukrainian lad, Yuri, which in short has now resulted Deb organising (as in getting them all knitted) a boat load of "Yuri Bears" being shipped to Poland and Ukraine to be given to Ukrainian children. What a brilliant effort and thing to do. What's more, Deb is heading over there to help distribute and to again, meet up with Yuri.

Deb is so more than this though and is just one remarkable human being who defied the odds and refused to be a victim. This is an amazing listen.