Join Joe and Pat as they continue the convo on existence in a post-truth era. 

In this episode they delve into the evolving nature of societal leadership, questioning what has fundamentally changed in guiding others in these complex times. They argue that modern leadership is increasingly about providing platforms and creating accountability more than ever before. Joe and Pat discuss the challenges and pitfalls of such approaches in political and organisational contexts. They conclude setting the stage for the next episode, which will focus on the nuances of accountability and the art of fostering a central narrative that unites diverse perspectives.

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