An excerpt from a conversation between the host, Meenu Gupta and Dr. Ketakandriana Rafitoson. In this conversation, Meenu Gupta engages with Dr. Ketakandriyana Rafitoson, a political scientist and human rights defender from Madagascar, discussing the urgent need for climate justice and the role of governance in addressing corruption and social justice

This except brings out Ke´s views on how COP can actually be  useful  instead of the current inertia of word excesses and less action.