Parenting is hard enough in normal times. But during a pandemic, it can lead you to a breaking point. Today, we look at those challenges, and how policy might help lighten the load. On today's show, Jessica Bennett, editor at large for The New York Times, and Dekeda Brown, autism mom and advocate and founder of the nonprofit Walk One Day In Our Shoes, talk about a new New York Times project called "Primal Scream" which collects diary entries from working mothers across the country on how they're managing life as we enter into the 11th month of the pandemic. Plus, parents call in with their own "primal scream" variants, including primal glasses of wine, and primal hiding-in-the-closet-for-a-moment-of-quiet.