AI AI AI. It’s all anyone online can talk about. What is it? Does it do anything useful? Who will it harm, and how? Can creative jobs even exist in the age of machine learning?

For artists, creatives, writers, and other intellectual property-driven professionals, the generative AI platforms continue to provoke confusion and dismay. How were these corporations able to train the Large Language Models that support these tools on a vast corpus of copyrighted works without permission from or compensation of the creators?

Attorney and art historian Katherine de Vos Devine is uniquely positioned to discuss these challenges. As an expert in fair use who works extensively with artists through her firm, Katherine has a deep understanding of the history and legal precedent that undergirds this moment.

In this episode of The Think Piece Podcast, Katherine offers a calm approach to the swiftly changing AI landscape. We discuss the current lawsuits against OpenAI and Microsoft, the history of fair use, and how the courts may approach these cases as we explore the role that each of us has in shaping the future, and ultimately ask: what world do we want to leave behind?

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